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- 11) What are the references to "See You Next Wednesday" in John Landis's
- films? [INNOCENT BLOOD]
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- Questions include:
- 1) "Does anyone know this movie?" <plot summary follows>
- 2) "What stories/movies/tv shows are about X?"
- 3) How can I get an address &/or a phone number for (some famous
- star)?
- 4) "Does anyone want to talk about X?"
- 5) Did Audrey Hepburn do the singing in MY FAIR LADY? Did Andy Williams
- dub Lauren Bacall's singing voice in TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT? How come
- Julie Andrews did not reprise her Broadway performance of Eliza
- Doolitle?
- 6) What movie did the quote: "Badges?? Badges?? We don't need no stinkin'
- badges?" come from ??
- 7) What is the earliest *numbered* sequel?
- 8) What is letterboxing?
- 9) Why are clips of old films always fast?
- 10) What are the Hitchcock cameos in all his movies?
- 11) What are the references to "See You Next Wednesday" in John Landis's
- films?
- 12) What does the number at the end of the end credits mean?
- 13) What "ethnic" actors have won Academy Awards?
- 14) What are all the James Bond films and who played Bond? When is the
- next James Bond film?
- 15) What are those funny dots that blink on in the upper-right corner of
- films?
-
- Topics include:
- 1) Colorizing -- various legal and moral issues
- 2) Product placements in movies
- 3) Has anyone seen this great movie I just saw called HEATHERS?
- 4) What's this talk about a ghost in THREE MEN AND A BABY?
- 5) Can someone explain BARTON FINK?
-
- Items covered in the rec.arts.sf.movies FAQ (cf):
- 1. Star Trek.
- 2. The animated LORD OF THE RINGS by Ralph Bakshi covers only the
- first half of the trilogy. Bakshi did not make the second half.
- 3. Frequent subjects.
- 4. Abbreviations commonly used in this group:
- 5. BLADE RUNNER: the sixth replicant, why voice-overs, and Deckard a
- replicant?
- 6. "Can the X beat the Y?" where X and Y are mighty ships or alien
- races from different space opera movies/series.
- 7. Is the movie HEAVY METAL out on video?
- 8. Why is there an acknowledgment to Harlan Ellison in the credits of
- THE TERMINATOR? or Doesn't THE TERMINATOR have the same plot as a
- TWILIGHT ZONE episode?
- 9. What about the relationship between HAL (the computer in 2001: A
- Space Odyssey) and IBM? (If you add 1 to each letter in HAL you get
- IBM.)
- 10. Who was the voice of the seductive Jessica Rabbit in the film
- "WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?"
- 11. What are all of the "cute" gimmicks in the film BACK TO THE
- FUTURE?
- 12. What role did Jamie Lee Curtis play in THE ADVENTURES OF
- BUCKAROO BANZAI ACROSS THE 8TH DIMENSION?
- 13. When is George Lucas going to make more STAR WARS films? What
- will they be about??
- 14. In OUTLAND and TOTAL RECALL, astronauts exposed suddenly to vacuum
- promptly explode. In 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, a few seconds'
- exposure to vacuum doesn't bother one at all. Which is right?
- 15. What does "FTL" mean?
- 16. I was told that the director's cut of DUNE was seven hours long,
- and did a much better job of portraying the novel. Where can I
- find it?
- 17. What are the two minutes of new footage on the STAR TREK VI: THE
- UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY videocassette?
-
- Items covered in the rec.music.classical FAQ (cf):
- Q6. What is that [classical] music in [insert TV show/movie here] ?
-
- rec.arts.movies is a newsgroup devoted to discussions of movies. It is
- a high-volume newsgroup and this article is intended to help reduce the
- number of unnecessary postings, thereby making it more useful and
- enjoyable to everyone.
-
- If you have not already done so, please read the articles in
- news.announce.newusers. They contain a great deal of useful information
- about network etiquette and convention.
-
- Before we begin, two pieces of net.etiquette. Both of these are
- mentioned in news.announce.newusers, but since they are so frequently
- violated, and at least one of them is particularly relevant to this
- group, we mention them here:
-
- SPOILER WARNINGS: Many people feel that much of the enjoyment of a film
- is ruined if they know certain things about it, especially when those
- things are surprise endings or mysteries. On the other hand, they also
- want to know whether or not a film is worth seeing, or they may be
- following a particular thread of conversation where such information may
- be revealed. The solution to this is to put the words SPOILER in your
- header, or in the text of your posting. You can also put a ctl-L
- character in the *first* column for your readers who are using rn. Some
- people think that spoiler warnings are not necessary. We don't understand
- why, and do not want to discuss it. Use your best judgment.
-
- REPLIES TO REQUESTS AND QUESTIONS: When you think that many people will
- know an answer to a question, or will have an answer to a request,
- RESPOND VIA E-MAIL!!! And if you don't know the answer, but want to
- know, DON'T POST TO THE NET asking for the answer, ask VIA E-MAIL! If
- you think a lot of people will want the same information, you might
- suggest that the person summarize to the net.
-
- Even if you don't see an answer posted, and you have the answer, please
- send it e-mail. The thirty other people who answered may have already
- sent it, and your site just hasn't gotten it yet. It clogs the net and
- gets very tedious to see 30 people answer the same question, and another
- 30 people asking for the answer to be posted. All of that should be
- done via mail. The net is a highly asynchronous medium. It can take
- several days for an article to make it to all sites. It is also quite
- common for followups to messages to reach a site before the original.
-
- Please keep in mind two points:
-
- 1. Always remember that there is a live human being at the
- other end of the wires. In other words, please write your
- replies with the same courtesy you would use in talking to
- someone face-to-face.
-
- 2. Try to recognize humor and irony in postings. Tone of
- voice does not carry in ASCII print, and postings are often
- snapped off quickly, so that humorous intent may not be
- obvious. More destructive and vicious arguments have been
- caused by this one fact of net existence than any other. It
- will help if satiric/ironic/humorous comments are marked with
- the "smiley face," :-)
-
- The first part of the list is a compendium of information that has been
- posted to rec.arts.movies many times in the past. If you have received
- this list through e-mail, without requesting it, this is most likely
- because you posted one of the questions on the list.
-
- The second part of the FAQ list contains a series of topics that are
- repeatedly discussed, along with a bit of editorial comment on each one.
- The reason for including this information is merely to provide new
- readers with some background and context. In no way do we mean for this
- to preclude anyone from discussing these topics again. While the items
- listed in part one are (indisputable??) facts, the topics in part two
- are objects of opinion. As such, they can be discussed ad infinitum
- without any resolution. Do so if you wish. Remember the first
- amendment...
-
- The last part of the FAQL contains a few further bits of information for
- readers of rec.arts.movies. This includes several other lists that are
- kept by members of the group, trivia contests etc. Interested readers
- should seek out the companion FAQ in rec.arts.sf.movies.
-
- If you have any questions about this list, or if there is something you
- think should be added, you can contact me through e-mail at:
-
- ecl@mtgzy.att.com
-
-
- Now, here are some frequently asked questions...
-
-
- PART ONE: Frequently asked questions, and some answers (and some
- of them may be right).
-
-
- 1) "Does anyone know this movie?" <plot summary follows>
-
- When making this kind of request, ask that all responses be e-mailed
- back to you. After having found out what it is, then post the correct
- answer to the net.
-
- If you know the answer but are unable to send a message to the requester,
- wait a few days. It's likely that someone else will post the correct
- answer, thus sparing you the effort.
-
- Do not post messages like "I want to know, too" to the net. E-mail the
- person who asked the question and request that they send you any
- information they get by e-mail. Only if you cannot reach the person by
- e-mail *and* no one has posted about the request after several days
- should you post.
-
-
- 2) "What stories/movies/tv shows are about X?"
-
- When making these kind of requests, ask that all replies be e-mailed to
- you and that you will summarize. Note that a summary is not just
- concatenating all the replies together and posting the resulting file.
- Take the time to strip headers, combine duplicate information, and
- write a short summary.
-
-
- 3) How can I get an address &/or a phone number for (some famous
- star)?
-
- You *can't* get phone numbers. But you can often get contact addresses
- (usually an agent or publicist), by calling the Screen Artist's Guild at
- 213-465-4600. They will give you a phone number and/or address for the
- agent. The agent can provide you an address to write and may send
- pictures on request or provide the publicist's addresses.
-
-
- 4) "Does anyone want to talk about X?"
-
- If nobody seems to be discussing what you want to talk about, post a
- (polite) message opening the discussion. Don't just say, "Does anyone
- want to talk about X" or "I really like X" however; try to have
- something interesting to say about the topic to get discussion going.
-
- Don't be angry or upset if no one responds. It may be that X is just a
- personal taste of your own, or quite obscure. Or it may be that X was
- discussed to death a few weeks ago, *just* before you came into the
- group. (If this is the case, you'll probably know, though, because
- some rude fool will probably flame you for "Bringing that up
- *AGAIN*!!!" Ignore them.)
-
-
- 5) Did Audrey Hepburn do the singing in MY FAIR LADY? Did Andy Williams
- dub Lauren Bacall's singing voice in TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT? How come
- Julie Andrews did not reprise her Broadway performance of Eliza
- Doolitle?
-
- Hepburn's singing was dubbed by Marni Nixon, who also did the singing
- for Natalie Wood in WEST SIDE STORY and Deborah Kerr in THE KING AND I.
- (Nixon also appeared in person as Sister Sophia in THE SOUND OF MUSIC.)
-
- Although the legend about Andy Williams and Lauren Bacall is so deeply
- entrenched that you'll find it repeated even in some film reference
- books, it's not true. Director Howard Hawks, when asked about this,
- explained that he had indeed planned to have Andy Williams sing for
- Bacall, but after hearing Bacall sing during the rehearsals for the
- scene he abandoned that plan and ended up using Bacall's own voice.
- (Source: Hawks on Hawks by Joseph McBride [Berkeley, University of
- California Press, 1982] p.130.) (Jon Corelis, jon@lindy.stanford.edu)
- However, Hepburn sang "Moon River" in BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S. She also
- sings some of the lead lines in MY FAIR LADY. (Yuzuru Hiraga,
- hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU)
-
- Andrews was not considered popular enough (by Jack L. Warner) to be cast
- in the movie of MY FAIR LADY.
-
- So it seems that the names mentioned above are actually more closely related!
-
-
- 6) What movie did the quote: "Badges?? Badges?? We don't need no stinkin'
- badges?" come from ??
-
- This quote was originally spoken in the film "Treasure of the Sierra Madre",
- written and directed by John Huston. A band of Mexican bandits approaches
- Humphry Bogart and crew (Walter Huston & Tim Holt) claiming to be federales.
- When Bogart asks to see their badges, the head of the band says:
-
- "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges.
- I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"
-
- This quote has been satirized in a number of films, perhaps most famously in
- Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles."
-
- By the way, this version of the quote has been verified as the exact
- transcription from the film by Wayne Hathaway and Jerry Boyajian. It is
- not, however, *exactly* the same as the book. In THE TREASURE OF SIERRA
- MADRE by B. Traven (1935), the bandit says, "Badges, to god-damned hell
- with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I
- don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabron and
- ching' tu madre! Come out there from that shit-hole of yours. I have
- to speak to you." (page 161 of the Modern Library edition) (For the
- Spanish-deprived among you, "cabron" is cuckold, "chingar" is "fuck,"
- and "tu madre" is "your mother." Clearly the dialogue was cleaned up
- for the film.) (See the rec.arts.books FAQ for more information about
- Traven.)
-
-
- 7) What is the earliest *numbered* sequel?
-
- THE GODFATHER, PART II (1974) certainly started the modern wave of numbered
- sequels, followed by (just up to 1980):
-
- 1975 THE FRENCH CONNECTION II
- 1976 THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT! PART 2 (Jerry Boyajian thinks they really
- missed the boat on this one by not calling this THAT'S
- ENTERTAINMENT, TOO! and wants it stated for the record he
- thought of this *before* LOOK WHO'S TALKING TOO came out.)
- 1977 EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC
- 1978 DAMIEN: THE OMEN II
- 1978 JAWS II
- 1979 ROCKY II
- 1980 SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT, PART II
- 1980 HIGH NOON, PART II: THE RETURN OF WILL KANE [TV movie]
-
- But it was no means the earliest numbered sequel. The runner up for that
- prize is:
-
- 1957 QUATERMASS II [US title: ENEMY FROM SPACE, though released on
- laserdisc in the US under the original title]
-
- which is a film version of the British television serial of the same name,
- and a sequel to the serial and feature film THE QUATERMASS [E]XPERIMENT
- [US title: THE CREEPING UNKNOWN].
-
- And the winner is:
-
- 1946 IVAN THE TERRIBLE, PART II
-
- Eisenstein started, but did not complete, a PART III the next year.
-
- (Recently in alt.cult-movies, in a discussion of Fritz Lang, someone had
- suggested that an even earlier numbered sequel was DR. MABUSE, DER SPIELER
- PART 2 (a.k.a. DR. MABUSE, KING OF CRIME), made in 1922. I suppose a case
- can be made for it, except that the two parts were originally made and
- exhibited together under a single title. Only in more recent times have
- the two parts been shown as individual works.)
-
- [Thanks to Jerry Boyajian, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com, for this answer.]
-
- Jerry now reports:
- I've "found" an earlier example than this. Akira Kurosawa made SANSHIRO
- SUGATA, PART TWO in 1945 (the original was filmed in 1943). [He has now
- confirmed that in Japanese, this is indeed a "numbered" sequel as well.]
-
-
- 8) What is letterboxing?
-
- In case you hadn't noticed, movie screens have a different shape than
- television screens. This means that when a movie is shown on a
- television screen, it doesn't fit. Up until recently, this meant that
- either the left and right ends of the picture were cropped off, or the
- picture was "panned and scanned" (the camera would seem to go back and
- forth between the left and right sides, usually done for scenes in which
- the two characters speaking were at the far left and right of a scene),
- or that the picture was warped so that everyone looked tall and thin
- (this was usually done for credit sequences so the full names could fit
- on the screen, or you would think you were watching "ne with the Wi").
- Now some companies are releasing "letterboxed" versions of films on
- videocassettes and videodisks. These have a black bar at the top and
- bottom of the screen, allowing the full width of the picture to be
- included, but resulting in a smaller picture--that is, a character ten
- inches tall in a non-letterboxed version might be eight inches tall in a
- letterboxed one.
-
-
- 9) Why are clips of old films always fast?
-
- Persistence of vision (which makes still film frames appear to be in
- motion) only requires 16 frames per second to fool the eye, so that was
- the speed used for early films. When sound was introduced, the
- 16-frame-per-second speed caused warbling, so the standard was increased
- to 24 frames per second.
-
- When you see a silent movie, shot at 16 frames per second, projected at
- the faster rate, it looks "faster" but only because there aren't many 16
- frame per second film projectors around. With modern videotape systems,
- the films-on-tape can be slowed back down.
-
- To complicate matters more, the early cameras were hand-cranked: if the
- cameraman cranked too slow, the projector made the movie look too
- fast...and vice versa. Early cameramen had to keep a steady rhythm.
-
- However, this is complicated by the fact that in the silent era, there
- was no universally "correct" film speed. The introduction of the 24-fps
- rate used today had to do with sound, as was said, not with the images.
- In the silent era, cameras were hand-operated, and so were most
- projectors. In addition to the obvious difficulties of maintaining a
- perfect rate by hand, the ability to speed up or slow down the progress
- of the film through the camera and projector was used for artistic
- effect. By undercranking (turning the crank slower and thus taking
- fewer frames per second) on shooting while projecting at normal speed,
- the action would speed up as more seconds of photographed time were
- compressed into a given number of seconds of projected time.
- Alternatively, overcranking would give the opposite effect -- slow
- motion. By cranking faster, the projectionist could speed up the
- action, while cranking slower on projection would slow down the action.
- The classic example of projectionist overcranking is during chases or
- other exciting scenes, to make the fast action seem even faster. I have
- heard that some films were even released with advice about how fast to
- crank during certain parts of the film. Also, shooting film
- undercranked would be used for certain stunts and special effects,
- giving the illusion of speed that wasn't actually present.
- [Another source reported that a PBS documentary series said films were
- sometimes undercranked to save film costs.]
-
- The typical rate of cranking on a silent film was lower than 24 fps --
- usually around 20 fps, I've been told, but it varied. Careless
- projection of silent film shows it at 24 fps, which is faster than it
- was intended to be shown. Hence, most people have seen silent film run
- at the equivalent of slight fast forward.
-
- One side effect of this method of shooting silent films is that any
- serious film guide that discusses silent films will not give running
- times for them, as that time could vary depending on the talent and mood
- of the projectionist. While the difference might be only a couple of
- minutes out of a couple of hours, printing a particular number of
- minutes as a running time for a silent film is misleading and can cause
- confusion. Typically, lengths are given in number of reels, or, when
- they really want to be careful, number of feet of film.
-
- It's worth noting that the technology hasn't been forgotten, though,
- given one of the uses it's put to, maybe it should have been. Network
- TV is fond of slightly speeding up the rate at which they show films,
- thus permitting them to squeeze a long film into a time slot without
- cutting anything. This practice gets filmmakers very angry, as it
- damages any pacing or rhythm they put into the film.
-
- [Thanks to Douglas Ferguson, ferguson@andy.bgsu.edu, and Peter Reiher,
- reiher@onyx.jpl.nasa.gov, for this answer.]
-
- 10) What are the Hitchcock cameos in all his movies?
-
- THE LODGER (1926): At a desk in a newsroom and later in the crowd watching
- an arrest.
-
- EASY VIRTUE (1927): Walking past a tennis court, carrying a walking stick.
-
- MURDER (1930): Walking past the house where the murder was committed, about
- an hour into the movie.
-
- BLACKMAIL (1929): Being bothered by a small boy as he reads a book in
- the subway.
-
- THE 39 STEPS (1935): Tossing some litter while Robert Donat and Lucie
- Mannheim run from the theater, seven minutes into the movie.
-
- YOUNG AND INNOCENT (1938): Outside the courthouse, holding a camera.
-
- THE LADY VANISHES (1938): Very near the end of the movie, in Victoria
- Station, wearing a black coat and smoking a cigarette.
-
- REBECCA (1940): Standing close to a phone booth in the final part of the
- film.
-
- FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT (1940): Early in the movie, after Joel McCrea
- leaves his hotel, wearing a coat and hat and reading a newspaper.
-
- MR. AND MRS. SMITH (1941): Midway through, passing Robert Montgomery in front
- of his building.
-
- SUSPICION (1941): mailing a letter at the village postbox about 45 minutes in.
-
- SABOTEUR (1942): Standing in front of Cut Rate Drugs in New York as the
- saboteurs' car stops, an hour in.
-
- SHADOW OF A DOUBT (1943): On the train to Santa Rosa, playing cards.
-
- LIFEBOAT (1944): In the "before" and "after" pictures in the newspaper ad
- for Reduco Obesity Slayer.
-
- SPELLBOUND (1945): Coming out of an elevator at the Empire Hotel,
- carrying a violin case and smoking a cigarette, 40 minutes in.
-
- NOTORIOUS (1946): At a big party in Claude Rains's mansion, drinking
- champagne and then quickly departing, an hour after the film begins.
-
- THE PARADINE CASE (1947): Leaving the train and Cumberland Station,
- carrying a cello.
-
- ROPE (1948): His trademark can be seen briefly on a neon sign in the view
- from the apartment window.
-
- UNDER CAPRICORN (1949): In the town square during a parade, wearing a blue
- coat and brown hat, in the first five minutes. Ten minutes later, he is one
- of three men on the steps of Government House.
-
- STAGE FRIGHT (1950): Turning to look at Jane Wyman in her disguise as
- Marlene Dietrich's maid.
-
- STRANGERS ON A TRAIN (1951): Boarding a train with a double bass fiddle as
- Farley Granger gets off in his hometown, early in the film.
-
- I CONFESS (1953): Crossing the top of a staircase after the opening
- credits.
-
- DIAL M FOR MURDER (1954): On the left side of the class-reunion photo,
- thirteen minutes into the film.
-
- REAR WINDOW (1954): Winding the clock in the songwriter's apartment, a half
- hour into the movie.
-
- TO CATCH A THIEF (1955): Ten minutes in, sitting to the left of Cary Grant
- on a bus.
-
- THE TROUBLE WITH HARRY (1955): Walking past the parked limousine of an old
- man who is looking at paintings, twenty minutes into the film.
-
- THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (1956): Watching acrobats in the Moroccan
- marketplace (his back to the camera) just before the murder.
-
- THE WRONG MAN (1956): Narrating the film's prologue.
-
- VERTIGO (1958): In a gray suit walking in the street, eleven minutes in.
-
- NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959): Missing a bus during the opening credits.
-
- PSYCHO (1960): Four minutes in, through Janet Leigh's window as she returns
- to her office. He is wearing a cowboy hat.
-
- THE BIRDS (1963): Leaving the pet shop with two white terriers as Tippi
- Hedren enters.
-
- MARNIE (1964): Entering from the left of the hotel corridor after Tippi
- Hedren passes by, five minutes in.
-
- TORN CURTAIN (1966): Early in the film, sitting in the Hotel d'Angleterre
- lobby with a blond baby.
-
- TOPAZ (1969): Being pushed in a wheelchair in an airport, half an hour in.
- Hitchcock gets up from the chair, shakes hands with a man, and walks off to
- the right.
-
- FRENZY (1972): In the center of a crowd, wearing a bowler hat, three
- minutes into the film; he is the only one not applauding the speaker.
-
- FAMILY PLOT (1976): In silhouette through the door of the Registrar of
- Births and Deaths, 41 minutes into the movie.
-
- I've seen it stated in several sources that he appeared in all of his movies
- from THE LODGER (1926) onwards, so he definitely doesn't appear in:
-
- THE PLEASURE GARDEN (1925)
- THE MOUNTAIN EAGLE (1926)
-
- However, the following movies (mostly early British ones) are missing from
- the above list:
-
- Champagne
- Downhill
- Farmer's Wife, The
- Jamaica Inn (1939)
- Juno and Paycock
- Man Who Knew Too Much, The (1934)
- Manxman, The
- Number Seventeen
- Rich and Strange
- Ring, The (1927)
- Sabotage
- Secret Agent
- Skin Game, The (1931)
- Waltzes from Vienna
-
- [Thanks to Colin Needham, cn@hplb.hpl.hp.com, for this answer.
- Colin maintains a more extensive "Hitchcock Information File"
- available on request.]
-
- 11) What are the references to "See You Next Wednesday" in John Landis's
- movies?
-
- (Jerry Boyajian says it should be noted that the *original*
- "See you next Wednesday" line comes from 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY.)
-
- There are actually three trademarks in Landis's movies: Steven Bishop
- ("Charming Wildcard"), "See You Next Wednesday" previews, posters, or
- references, and "Girl from Ipanema" music in the background.
-
- SCHLOCK (1971):
- Two promotional blurbs for SYNW during a newscast for the "movie at 6 on 6"
- and on a poster in a theatre lobby (the real poster was for "King Kong vs.
- Godzilla").
-
- KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE (1977):
- Steven Bishop plays the "charming guy":
- "Show me your nuts!"
- "oooo, hey, how ya doing? Surfing U.S.A..."
- SYNW is the title of the "Feel-a-Rama" movie.
-
- ANIMAL HOUSE (1978):
- Bishop plays the "I gave my love a cherry" man. The credit is "Charming
- Guy," as usual. SYNW does not appear anywhere in this film. However,
- that is not to say there is no reference to Landis' SCHLOCK, which was
- the only film he made before ANIMAL HOUSE. [Moderator's note--not true;
- he also made KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE.] The actress who plays the girl with
- whom the Schlockthropus (a "missing link"/ape type) falls in love also
- appears in ANIMAL HOUSE as the girl who is at the desk of the girls'
- school dorm where Otter (Tim Matheson) and company go to pick up dates
- on their road trip. In a later scene, she is asked what she is studying
- and she replies, "Primitive cultures," which has to be a reference to
- SCHLOCK. At the end of ANIMAL HOUSE when the one or two lines
- describes the future of each character for Nedermeir (sp?) it said that
- Nedermeir was "killed by his own troops in Vietnam." During the part of
- TWILIGHT ZONE when the person is in a swamp in Vietnam and some US
- troops come by they can be heard to say "I told you we shouldn't have
- shot Neidermeyer."
-
- THE BLUES BROTHERS (1980):
- On a billboard where two Illinois state troopers are lying in wait. It's
- only there for a second as Jake and Elwood are speeding away from Bob's
- Country Bunker. The billboard also pictures a large ape and looks like an
- ad for a bad horror flick. Bishop plays the Charming Trooper in the mall
- chase. "Girl From Ipanema" is playing in the elevator as they go to the
- office with Spielberg (someone else claims it's Frank Oz) in it.
-
- (Also: on the laserdisc version, after the credits, there is a plug
- to go visit Universal Studios with the line "Ask for Babs" (a reference
- to the "Where are they now" part of ANIMAL HOUSE))
-
- AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON (1981):
- SYNW is the name of the porno film that is playing in the Picadilly Circus
- theatre where David meets with Jack and his zombie friends. The movie bill
- also appears in the London underground when the man is killed.
-
- TRADING PLACES (1983):
- SYNW is on a poster in Jamie Lee Curtis' apartment. No ape, just the
- silhouette of two people.
-
- Michael Jackson's "Thriller" (1983):
- SYNW is in lines of dialogue from the movie within the video. "...scrawled
- in blood...", "What does it say?", "It says, 'See you next Wednesday'."
- (Also, if you look close enough, there is a poster for SCHLOCK in the
- lobby as Michael and his date leave the theatre.)
-
- TWILIGHT ZONE - THE MOVIE (1983):
- Steven Bishop plays "Charming G.I." (bad pun)
-
- INTO THE NIGHT (1985):
- There are actually two posters in INTO THE NIGHT for SYNW. Both are in
- the movie producer's office where Michelle Pfeiffer and Jeff Goldblum make a
- phone call about a half hour or so into the film.
-
- SPIES LIKE US (1985):
- In one scene, Chevy Chase and Dan Ackroyd are in the office of the commander
- of the army training post that is the site of their training. There is a
- shot of the commander lecturing them, and on the office wall behind him is a
- recruitment poster bearing the legend "See You Next Wednesday."
-
- COMING TO AMERICA:
- A movie poster in the subway station where the Prince's bride-to-be
- returns her earring gift. (The movie claims to star Jamie Lee Curtis,
- who starred in TRADING PLACES.) Later, the Prince, to prove to his
- girlfriend that money isn't important to him, gives his sizable roll
- of pocket money to a pair of street people, who turn out to be the
- Duke brothers (Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy) from TRADING PLACES.
- They even appear in the credits! You might recall that the Dukes are
- destitute at the end of TRADING PLACES, so the plotlines are
- consistent. It is also amusing that Eddie Murphy, who made them poor
- in the former movie, made them rich in the latter.
-
- INNOCENT BLOOD (NYR):
- The marquee across the street from the Melody Lounge exotic dance bar.
- (Visible over the shoulders of the Mafia folks the first time they
- enter the bar.)
-
- (Interestingly, that was not the only movie marquee set up to display
- the SYNW title. The "car crash at the Shadyside gas station" scene
- was filmed down the street from Stewart M. Clamen's residence (in
- Squirrel Hill), and the nearby multiplex changed its marquee
- appropriately every night after closing. The movie itself featured no
- footage of that theatre (or the street on which it resides), although
- it is possible that it was edited out.
-
- This leads one to believe that Landis inserts many SYNW references in
- the backgrounds of his scenes, so as not to constrain himself (and his
- film editor) during editing.)
-
- [Thanks to Randy Spencer, spencer@usc-oberon.UUCP, Stewart M. Clamen,
- clamen@cs.cmu.edu, and Jerry Boyajian, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com,
- for this answer. Jerry also wants to know if anyone has catalgoed
- other "Ask for Babs" references.]
-
- 12) What does the number at the end of the end credits mean?
-
- The Motion Picture Association of America (the MPAA) is responsible for
- assigning these numbers. It is part of their film rating service. Any film
- can be submitted to the MPAA for rating (the G/PG/PG13/R/NC-17 ratings
- Americans are familiar with), for a small fee. Any film rated by the MPAA is
- issued a unique number. Any film can be submitted, but many aren't, including
- most adult sex films, many foreign films, industrial films and other training
- and educational films, television films, and some independently made films.
-
- The rating service (and the numbering associated with it) was started in
- 1968. There is no publicly available list of films and numbers, and the
- MPAA information office does not have the title of the film issued certificate
- #1 readily available.
-
- Films before 1968 were assigned numbers based on their agreement to the
- Production Code, instituted July 1, 1934. Under that scheme, the film SHE,
- released in 1935, has number 985. Reports of any earlier number spottings
- would be appreciated. Given that the current number is in the 30,000,
- I believe the current numbers are continued from those, rather than restarted
- in 1968.
-
- A word or two more about MPAA ratings. The ratings are assigned by a board
- composed of "ordinary citizens", largely parents, as the intent of the
- rating system is to protect the tender minds of children from harm. The
- board watches the film and collectively assigns a rating. If the producer
- doesn't like the rating, s/he has a couple of options. The rating can be
- appealed to the MPAA official in charge of rating films. On a few occasions,
- the appeal has been successful. Not too surprisingly, appeals by large
- studios tend to have a better success rate than appeals by smaller studios.
- Alternately, the producer can recut the film and resubmit it. The MPAA rating
- board tends to be coy on exactly what caused a film to get a rating, and they
- never actually tell a filmmaker that if this scene is cut, you will get that
- rating. Somehow or other, though, the information tends to get to the
- filmmakers, so that Alan Parker, for instance, somehow knew that cutting a few
- seconds of Mickey Rourke humping Lisa Bonet while blood drips from the ceiling
- changes "Angel Heart" from a film no child should see to a film merely
- requiring parental presence.
-
- While we're at it, what is the MPAA? It's an industry organization for the
- American film production business, particularly for the major studios. Its
- members are Disney, Columbia, MGM, Orion, Paramount, 20th Century Fox,
- Universal, and Warner Brothers. These companies pay fees to the MPAA that
- are used as the primary source of financing for the organization. In
- addition to the ratings, the MPAA performs other services for their members,
- including lobbying the government. (They prefer to refer to this service
- as "working on issues important to the film industry.") Jack Valenti, the
- head of the MPAA, is a prominent spokesman who speaks for "Hollywood" as
- a whole, generally on issues important to all the studios, like film
- piracy, trade disputes with other countries, and censorship. The MPAA was
- founded in 1922, so it's been doing this sort of thing for quite a while.
-
- [Thanks to Peter Reiher, reiher@onyx.jpl.nasa.gov, for this answer.]
-
- 13) What ethnic actors have won Academy Awards?
-
- (This question seem to come up every year at Oscar time.)
-
- "Actors of ethnic extraction other then European/ Mediterranean who have
- been nominated for Academy Awards" (so we don't start quibbling over Omar
- Sharif). I'm not a big fan of groupings by race, but it has its educational
- values in a situation like this, showing Hollywood's record in honoring
- minority contributions. In borderline cases, we have gone by the "as
- generally perceived" standard--thus no Ben Kingsley, who seems thoroughly
- British despite the fact that his father was Gujrati, and none of the many
- American actors who proudly say they're "part Indian" when they mean 1/16 or
- 1/32. With that ponderous preamble out of the way, here's the list:
-
- AFRICAN-AMERICAN
-
- Hattie McDaniel 1939 supp Gone with the Wind WON
- Dorothy Dandridge 1954 lead Carmen Jones
- Sidney Poitier 1958 lead The Defiant Ones
- 1963 lead Lilies of the Field WON
- Beah Richards 1967 supp Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
- Rupert Crosse 1969 supp The Reivers
- James Earl Jones 1970 lead The Great White Hope
- Paul Winfield 1972 lead Sounder
- Cicely Tyson 1972 lead Sounder
- Diana Ross 1972 lead Lady Sings the Blues
- Diahann Carroll 1974 lead Claudine
- Howard E. Rollins Jr 1981 supp Ragtime
- Louis Gossett Jr. 1982 supp Officer & Gentleman WON
- Alfre Woodard 1983 supp Cross Creek
- Adolph Caesar 1984 supp A Soldier's Story
- Whoopi Goldberg 1985 lead The Color Purple
- 1991 supp Ghost WON
- Margaret Avery 1985 supp The Color Purple
- Oprah Winfrey 1985 supp The Color Purple
- Dexter Gordon 1986 lead Round Midnight
- Morgan Freeman 1987 supp Street Smart
- 1989 lead Driving Miss Daisy
- Denzel Washington 1987 supp Cry Freedom
- 1989 supp Glory WON
-
- ASIAN (including Polynesian)
-
- Miyoshi Umeki 1957 supp Sayonara WON
- Sessue Hayakawa 1957 supp Bridge over the River Kwai
- Mako 1966 supp The Sand Pebbles
- Jocelyn LaGarde 1966 supp Hawaii
- Haing S. Ngor 1984 supp The Killing Fields WON
- Noriyuki "Pat" Morita 1984 supp The Karate Kid
-
- NATIVE AMERICAN
-
- Chief Dan George 1970 supp Little Big Man
- Graham Greene 1991 supp Dances with Wolves
-
- Note that John Singleton is now the first African-American to be
- nominated as best director.
-
- [Thanks to Jon Conrad, conrad@sun.acs.udel.edu, for bulk of this answer.]
-
-
- 14) What are all the James Bond films and who played Bond? When is the
- next James Bond film?
- "Casino Royale" episode of CLIMAX TV series 1954 Barry Nelson
- Dr. No 1963 Sean Connery
- From Russia With Love 1964 Sean Connery
- Goldfinger 1964 Sean Connery
- Thunderball 1965 Sean Connery
- Casino Royale 1967 David Niven*
- You Only Live Twice 1967 Sean Connery
- On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1969 George Lazenby
- Diamonds Are Forever 1971 Sean Connery
- Live and Let Die 1973 Roger Moore
- The Man With the Golden Gun 1974 Roger Moore
- The Spy Who Loved Me 1977 Roger Moore
- The Strange Case of the End of Civilisation
- as We Know It 1977 ?
- Moonraker 1979 Roger Moore
- For Your Eyes Only 1981 Roger Moore
- Octopussy 1983 Roger Moore
- Never Say Never Again 1983 Sean Connery
- The Return of the Man from U.N.C.L.E. 1983 George Lazenby+
- A View to a Kill 1985 Roger Moore
- The Living Daylights 1987 Timothy Dalton
- Licence to Kill 1989 Timothy Dalton
- "Diamonds Aren't Forever" episode of ALFRED
- HITCHCOCK PRESENTS 1989 George Lazenby=
-
-
- And regarding the John Landis stuff, I wonder if anyone has compiled a list
- of the films that feature the "When In Hollywood Visit Universal City
- Studios (Ask for Babs)" card at the end of the closing credits.
-
-
- * Woody Allen plays his nephew, "Jimmy Bond"
- + Only a cameo--Lazenby drives a car with license plate "007" in this
- made-for-television movie and is clearly supposed to be Bond, though he
- is never called by name.
- = Lazenby plays "James ... [sic]"
-
- (Michael Golan mentions also CANNONBALL (1976), but in that Roger Moore
- is explicit that he is *Roger Moore*, not James Bond, in spite of all
- appearances. Still, some may want to count this. "M" and "Miss
- Moneypacket" appear in "The Strange Case of the End of Civilisation as
- We Know It," a 1977 British television production starring John Cleese;
- they were played by Kenneth Benda and Charlotte Alexandra respectively.)
-
- And as far as the *next* Bond film goes:
- UA, who made the Bond films, is still owned by MGM, which is in moderately
- bad financial trouble. They keep making movies, but they tend not to
- make big budgetbusters, at the moment. MGM still has a distribution
- deal with Broccoli for James Bond films, so any he made would have to go
- through them, meaning they would presumably be financed by MGM, too.
-
- In addition to the financial problems at MGM, there are legal problems.
- For a while MGM/UA was owned by Pathe Communications, which was run by
- an Italian weasel named Paretti. He bought the studios under shady
- circumstances; everyone predicted he wouldn't have enough money to pull
- it off, and, in the end, he didn't. He's now hiding out from U.S.
- indictments in his native land. At any rate, one of the measures he
- took to dig up money for his acquisitions was to sell the television
- rights to the James Bond films. But part of the money from this sale
- was to go to Broccoli, and he felt that the rights were sold for bargain
- basement prices to help Paretti out of his financial troubles (at the
- expense of Broccoli). So Broccoli is suing. Until the suit gets settled,
- chances are there will be no more Bond films.
-
- Should the suit get settled, and should MGM pull itself out of trouble,
- there will probably be another Bond film. While the last two performed
- poorly in the U.S., they were big hits in Europe and Asia, more than
- recouping their costs. As part of a lengthy series, they have more library
- value than they would otherwise. Also, given the poor performance of the
- last "Rocky" film, and the collapse of the Pink Panther films (I doubt
- if the upcoming one will change that), Bond is the only valuable series
- that MGM/UA still have.
-
- At this point, it's anyone's guess about when the film will appear, what
- the title, plot, or setting will be, and who will star.
-
- [The above re the future of Bond films is courtesy of Peter Reiher,
- reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu.]
-
-
- 15) What are those funny dots that blink on in the upper-right corner of
- films?
-
- These are change-over cues, or "reel-change dots," signaling the
- projectionist that it is time to change reels. The average reel
- contains about twenty minutes of 35mm film. In some old films on TV,
- you'll see long changeover cues since some projectionists were paranoid
- that they would not see the marks. so, they extended the marks to
- include more frames. Sometimes they would just use a paper punch and
- make *big* holes in the film. Hard to miss these....
-
- Video versions these days usually don't have these dots, though you may
- see them in older movies, or in wide-screen films that have been panned-
- and-scanned. (The video versions lack the dots in part because the sides
- of the picture get trimmed when it is transferred to video.)
-
- (Paul Parenteau, dog@sequent.COM)
-
- (Ron Birnbaum, ron@osf.org, also says that the dots also used on television
- to signal that a commercial break is coming.)
-
- PART TWO: Frequent Topics and other things we just thought you might
- like to know. First a few general notes... The readership of
- rec.arts.movies is in the whole very knowledgeable about a wide
- range of movies. However, it is my informal assessment that
- science fiction and fantasy movies are discussed and analyzed far
- beyond their popularity in most of the rest of the world. This is
- neither good nor bad, and the reason for it seems fairly obvious
- to me. The readership of this group reflects the broader
- readership of USENET. This latter population is top heavy with
- computer scientists and other forms of science scholars. There is
- a correlation (though not necessarily a causal relationship) between
- being in one of these professions, and an interest in science
- fiction and fantasy. Okay, enough of that. Now, here are some
- things which come up often, and, while you are free to discuss
- them, you should be forewarned that some long-time readers may get
- fairly fed-up with you.
-
-
- PART THREE: Frequently discussed topics:
-
- 1) COLORIZING -- Various legal and moral issues. As most of you
- probably know, Ted Turner and others have taken to adding "color" old
- black and white films. "Color" is in quotes, because it is questionable
- whether you can really call it color. Anyway, there is, every so often,
- a discussion of some aspect of this. There are a whole host of legal
- and moral/ethical issues involved here. Suprisingly there really seems
- to be a fair mix of opinion on this issue. No, you cannot just turn off
- the color on your television; adding color changes the values of the
- various sections so they show up differently. However, adding color
- requires a restored clean print, so many claim that the money from
- selling color-added films is being used to preserve the films (in black
- and white as well as in color). It has been ruled illegal to add color
- to CITIZEN KANE due to the way Orson Welles's contract was written.
- (Boyajian points out that "colorization" is a trademarked term.)
-
- 2) PRODUCT PLACEMENTS IN MOVIES. In many films, the film company
- will get paid by some companies to use their products. Some
- readers object to this as a fairly manipulative and distracting
- presence. Others do not object, commenting that people really do
- use name-brand products, so using them in films makes sense.
- Many have commented on the pack of Marlboro cigarettes in DEAD AGAIN,
- saying this was the best product placement they had ever seen.
-
- 3) HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS GREAT MOVIE I JUST SAW CALLED HEATHERS?
- For some reason, every time someone stumbles across this movie,
- they feel like they should post to the net and ask if anyone else
- has seen it, and do they want to discuss it. This is fine, of
- course, but it does get to be a little repetitive. The film stars
- Winona Ryder as Veronica and Christian Slater as J.D. Two students
- at a high school in Ohio. The three most popular girls at the
- school, and Veronica's best friends, are all named Heather. The
- film is a black comedy which revolves around the relationship of
- JD & Veronica, and how they interact with the 3 Heathers and
- others. Some people think it is very good, although many netters were
- disappointed with the ending. If you haven't seen it yet, you should.
-
- 4) WHAT'S THIS TALK ABOUT A GHOST IN THREE MEN AND A BABY?
- There is a rumor that if you watch TMATB very closely you will see a
- ghost in it. The scene in question is the one where Ted Danson's
- character meets his mom in his apartment. If you look near the window
- you can see an image resembling a small boy. This is supposedly the
- ghost of a boy who was killed in the house where the movie was filmed.
-
- First of all, the movie was not filmed in a house, but on a Toronto
- soundstage. So the whole premise is hokey to begin with. But here is
- more evidence provided by: brian@b11.ingr.com (Brian Enright)):
-
- > I then rewound and ran it through super slow mo. When they pass the
- > window on their way in, you can't see the boy but it looks like there
- > is a bed post sticking up. When they pass the window again it looks
- > like a two-dimensional cut-out but not of Ted Danson. It's a little
- > boy with a baseball cap, a white tee-shirt and a blue unbuttoned
- > button-down shirt in my opinion. Hmmmm. I had to investigate.
- >
- > After further investigation of other scenes in the movie I found there
- > were no bed posts on the bed. Then I hit the clue that gave it away.
- > This particular scene is almost at the end of the movie. In this
- > scene Ted Danson walks to a window where there is a cut-out of him in
- > a black top hat and a black tuxedo with a white shirt. If you
- > examine this cut out closely and go back to the scene in question,
- > you will notice that they are the same cut out. You can see that the
- > boy *is* Ted Danson and he is wearing a top hat and even his shoulders
- > hidden behind the curtain are noticeably not a little boy's but a man
- > in a tuxedo.
- >
- > I hate to burst any bubbles but it *definitely is* a cut-out of Ted
- > Danson in a *tuxedo*..
-
- 5) Can someone explain BARTON FINK?
-
- So far as I can tell, no. :-)
-
- From: bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell):
-
- Other information: There are several lists revolving around film that
- are kept by netters. These frequently come up.
-
- One major project is a list of votes/ratings of a plethora of movies.
- This list is maintained by Chuck Musciano,
- (chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com), and it is posted regularly, with a
- chance for people to vote. The report is also available via anonymous
- ftp from penguin.gatech.edu (128.61.9.46) in the pub/movie directory.
-
- Evelyn Leeper (ecl@mtgzy.att.com) provides several services for the
- r.a.m readers (aside from her many postings), including maintaining
- these lists:
-
- -- Academy Award Nominations & Winners from 1987 on
- -- Hollywood Vocabulary (such terms as chopsocky, bowed,
- helmed, etc.)
- -- Information on what all those people listed in film
- credits do (e.g. key grip, gaffer...).
-
- Evelyn is also the moderator of the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which
- is a collection of movie reviews written by USENET-ers. The
- rec.arts.movies.reviews archives are currently stored on LCS.MIT.EDU
- (192.20.239.131) which is a UNIX machine, and are in the directory
- /common/movie-reviews. The archives are currently available to anyone
- with FTP access to this machine. The files are numbered, so you will
- need to refer to the latest index to see which ones you want. Every
- hundred issues is a cumulative index (nn00). The number of reviews has
- made it necessary to split them up into subdirectories. Thus, numbers
- 0001 through 0099 are in 00xx.dir, 0100 through 0199 in 01xx.dir, and so
- on. There are files "INDEX*" in the directory /common/movie-reviews that
- index all reviews. If you have no FTP access, you can request copies
- of reviews (12 or less at a time) by sending mail to Evelyn.
-
-
- Another group of interest is rec.arts.cinema. This is a moderated
- group, devoted to more serious analyses of film and film related issues.
- The moderator is Manavendra Thakur. Send submissions to
- thakur@cfa.harvard.edu. (This group has been very inactive of late,
- and may be dead.)
-
-
- Several "filmography" lists are kept by various rec.arts.movies gurus, and are
- posted regularly. These lists are:
-
-
- List | Maintained by
- ---------- |---------------------------------------
- Directors | Dave Knight <dknight@elm.sdd.trw.com>
- Dead actors | Col Needham <cn@otter.hpl.hp.com>
- Actresses | Andy Krieg <krieg@titan.med.ge.com>
- Actors | Col Needham <cn@otter.hpl.hp.com>
- Writers | Andy Krieg <krieg@titan.med.ge.com>
- Cinematographers| Michel Hafner <hafner@ifi.unizh.ch>
- Composers | Michel Hafner <hafner@ifi.unizh.ch>
- Goofs | "Starman" <meg5184@hertz.njit.edu>
-
- The lists are also available via anonynmous FTP from boulder.colorado.edu
- (128.138.240.1) in the directory ~ftp/pub/tv+movies/lists.
-
- Colin Needham has written a set of shell scripts for creating and
- searching a massive movie database using the information contained on
- all the lists. The scripts are also available via ftp in the directory
- ~ftp/pub/tv+movies/lists/tools. He also publishes a set of scripts for
- managing the task of voting in Chuck's Movie Ratings poll; they are
- available via anonymus ftp from penguin.gatech.edu (128.61.9.46) in
- the pub/movie/process directory or via e-mail from him
- (cn@otter.hpl.hp.com).
-
- Bob Niland (rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM) has several articles on Laser Disc
- technology and availability available from his archives. You may request
- any of these at any time. Recent copies are also available for anonymous
- ftp on:
- princeton.edu (128.112.128.1, directory pub/Video/Niland) and
- bobcat.bbn.com (128.89.2.103),
- wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (192.88.110.20).
-
- Lastly, there are a series of movie trivia contests. Some of these
- even offer prizes! The initial contest postings generally include
- information on how to enter. The important point is that you
- should never post answers, but should send them e-mail.
-
- Evelyn C. Leeper | +1 908 957 2070 | att!mtgzy!ecl or ecl@mtgzy.att.com
-
-